Forge Ahead in the Next Version Update! (04/18/2014)

[Priran]

Lol, really? What happened to the land of dragoons? Not only we haven't seen any dragon(except the brief apparition of the white thing), but no one has even ever mentioned it.

you haven't been paying attention*

the order of thurandaut are proficient in polearms and tame wild animals, which would fit achtelle's bill

[Kyte]

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...SLKLMY8020.jpg

Lilisette was far more interesting than Arciela and looked better to boot. A pity, she could have been the true heir to Prishe if she wasn't stuck in Wings of the Goddess. We laughed, we cried, we kicked ass then she went to the future.... for Vana'diel!

lol- my point was that they made a point to actually zoom in on them during the cutscenes, which was their hilarious way of trying to disguise her somewhat bland (but not nearly as awful as some of you are making it out to be) character.

[dasva]

Still waiting for some quest or appearance of Achetelle, the Adoulinian npc drg from wotg that was the first to mention Adoulin at all. Her dialogue could have insinuated dragons and dragons were plentiful in Adoulin, though lore-wise that would be odd(at least for the drgs) since drgs were special knights of Sandoria and Adoulin was founded by a Hume and he wasn't of royal blood until he *made* himself king when he pioneered Ulbulka. I was hoping there'd be a final zone for the 7th Naakual and the theme would be dragons. Dragons are associated with light and would be the foil to demons. Undead<>Arcana (dark vs light) and dragons<>demons (light vs dark). We have a zone full of umbrils which are demoesque the zone has frequent dark weather, perfect for a "omg the legend says there were only 7 naakuals but wait there's a hidden/lost/forgotten 8th(duh 8 elements)". Seeing as how that wyrm we saw in the last cs embodies ligh, there's probably a dark based Naakual too. Then the 7th delve area could be chock full of puks and Wyrms and Shadow Dragons lol.

But seriously, I'm sure there's an 8th Naakual especially when you have a paradigm of ele mentally aligned beasts and one is conveniently left out so they could troll you with a plot twist at the end.

Bit what about the paradigm of using the first 2 ecosystems which we are still missing one family from?

[FaeQueenCory]

Am I the only one concerned with "mythic-equivalent"?
"Relic-equivalent" translated into basically getting a fully augmented +2 relic set with iLvs for basically nothing... No random drops... No farming no matter what way one chooses to iLv their relics... You basically just drop a few hundreds gil on AH synth materials and you have the whole set!
And worse... You don't even need all the synth items either! You can just drop 100k bayld instead... As if Bayld isn't the new cruor with less stuff to spend it on... (Pretty much just WKR entry items now...)

I'm worried about the inherent inequality (and thus lack of fairness) that this implies...
Especially given the butt-ton of WORK it takes just to make a stupid lv75 Mythic.
There REALLY isn't enough content in Adoulin to come anywhere close to the same amount of work and effort demanded for a Mythic...

And if this is only the prep for the finale and not the finale to the missions... Then even requiring all Adoulin missions would be off the table too...

And I worry about this... As a RUN.
I didn't like how stupid easy it was to get my 5/5 relic set... It was just TOO easy compared to every other job's...
And I'm expecting basically the same thing again with the fake!Mythic.
I don't want a shitty fake Mythic. I want a real one.
Don't just give me something that everyone else has to sell their soul for.

[Priran]

Am I the only one concerned with "mythic-equivalent"?
"Relic-equivalent" translated into basically getting a fully augmented +2 relic set with iLvs for basically nothing... No random drops... No farming no matter what way one chooses to iLv their relics... You basically just drop a few hundreds gil on AH synth materials and you have the whole set!
And worse... You don't even need all the synth items either! You can just drop 100k bayld instead... As if Bayld isn't the new cruor with less stuff to spend it on... (Pretty much just WKR entry items now...)

I'm worried about the inherent inequality (and thus lack of fairness) that this implies...
Especially given the butt-ton of WORK it takes just to make a stupid lv75 Mythic.
There REALLY isn't enough content in Adoulin to come anywhere close to the same amount of work and effort demanded for a Mythic...

And if this is only the prep for the finale and not the finale to the missions... Then even requiring all Adoulin missions would be off the table too...

And I worry about this... As a RUN.
I didn't like how stupid easy it was to get my 5/5 relic set... It was just TOO easy compared to every other job's...
And I'm expecting basically the same thing again with the fake!Mythic.
I don't want a shitty fake Mythic. I want a real one.
Don't just give me something that everyone else has to sell their soul for.

I think the only people who would be honestly "bothered" if their REM-equivalent was easier to get than others' would be people who've got no interest in either. Which would be a lot of people, because those jobs need help. Like giving them a REM weapon.

But forcing a job which has only ever existed at 99 cap, whose AF is 99, whose relic is 109, to go back and get started on years' worth of cooldown-gated Lv.75 content before they can finally get a weapon that makes their job viable is dumb. And thinking they're going to do it is dumb, they're calling it "mythic equivalent" instead of "REM-equivalent" because mythic weapons are designed per job, not per weapon class.

[Ophannus]

Likely to be a REM equivalent. It probably won't have an AM with oa2-3 but will have a unique ws a job specific buff and high stats and maybe a unique aftermath. Requirements could be:

1) 1 million Bayld
2) Max rank in every coalition and every assignment cleared(possibly required to reclear ala the assault notebook type shit.
3) have titles from 5/5/5 clears from every skirmish area
4) all delve clear titles
5) all delve boss KI's in your inventory
6) all the paragons in your inventory
7) 100 of EACH of the following: gabbrath horn, rockfin tooth, and the other expensive delve boss synth mats.
8) cleared all the phantom gem battlefields in VD with the title
9) completed all the RoE trials
10) 200 job points

Do all that and you get the new mythic great sword or mythic bell lol. How's that for tedious/expensive?

[Fwahm]

Point 7 on your list is alone harder than an entire current mythic 119. Somehow I doubt they'll do anything like your list >.>

[Martel]

I think the idea here was, that SE wanted to make this difficult, there's plenty of SoA related content that they could slave drive us through for our mythic equivalents. They could easily make his just as hard as a ToAU mythic. We've even got our time based assault-esque cockblock , coalition ops.

[detlef]

Mythic equivalent could just be a way to describe the type of aftermath.

[Byrthnoth]

I am kind of assuming that the aftermath won't be the "Mythic"-like part of it. I bet it's just a really good JSE weapon that offers a unique enhancement to the job.

[Prothescar]

fully expect all coalition assignments to be complete, all delve clears, etc. as pre reqs. kinda wish I wasn't lazy about coalitions now. never finished most of them

[Ophannus]

Oh also a KI that costs 99,999 Obsidian Fragments

[dasva]

Make that 1 billion balyd (because seriously my mules have over a million pretty much just from doing coalition assignments and I've let so many tags rot) and like 10 million plasm. And at least 1k of each of the skirmish wings stored.

[Shenrien]

30,000 obsidian shards, I haven't done Skirmish 3 but that shit was scares as fuck in 1 & 2.

[NynJa]

And at least 1k of each of the skirmish wings stored.

what the fuck

[Darkmagi]

If any of those horrible ideas happen, I blame you people.

[Malithar]

30,000 obsidian shards, I haven't done Skirmish 3 but that shit was scares as fuck in 1 & 2.

Shards are actually pretty easy to get. You can trade in any Skirmish augmentation stone to Ornery and get 20% of his sale cost back. Ghastly +1 and +2s are generally the best bang for the buck, as far as I've seen. 5k for 200 frags from +1, 50kish for 1980 or whatever frags from +2.

We've even got our time based assault-esque cockblock , coalition ops.

That plan might flop unless they pull some repeatable x times bullshit out of their hat, since we're able to pick up the assignment, complete it (or just hold it, doesn't matter), and just never turn it in. Personally have every assignment flagged like that to hold onto hundreds of tags just incase they add a use, such as this, to them or expand the system.

Fun speculation:

All used for single/multiple KIs or a direct trade in:
150k Obsidian Frags
5 million Plasm
2 million Bayld
All Delve, WKR, and Skirmish titles
Hopefully a bunch of Beits since I wasn't able to unload all 10 of the stacks I had saved up.

Really hoping they don't fuck Geo's mythic up. Worried that since it's a club, they're going to gimp the MAcc/MDmg/MAB on it, and make it useful only for whatever Geo specific shit it has. Hopefully they wisen up and give it nuking stats similar to 119 RME staves.

[Draylo]

I only have one coalition maxed, that would suck since they take forever to max.

[Kincard]

Hah, I'm actually ahead of Draylo in something. I think I'm maxed in Couriers, Inventors and Scouts since those are things I can log in and do in a couple minutes which is all I have some days. Peacekeepers and Pioneers arn't too bad either, it's just annoying to have to run back and get another mission flag when you're out farming capes or something.

The one that's total fucking bullshit is Mummer's. Goddamn that one is annoying to get started in. I'm still the first rank for that.

Like some people do, I just take random missions during the week and then just spend them all in one place when I get time so I end up getting a bunch of coalition ranks at once.

[Byrthnoth]

I maxed all coalitions two updates ago, but I haven't bothered to do the new ones for the new zones they added since then.